The price of support
Dave Camp voted for more of this:
This site is dedicated to Michigan's 4th District Congressman Dave Camp, who has deftly managed to fly under the media radar and claim to be a "moderate" Republican while managing to champion a right wing agenda. "He's a pretty personable guy," most folks agree, but his extreme agenda is the exact opposite of what most 4th District voters want and need from a Congressman, unless you are Dow Chemical.
Dave Camp wanted to know what his constituents think about the war in Iraq, so he naturally went out to find out ... in a way meant to reinforce the same course of action Camp has advocated all along. And, what do you know ... he got exactly what he was after, and in a way that allows him to couch his vote against the Iraq resolution in a way that makes it look like it's the fault of his constituents rather than the representative.
I share with my colleagues, the president, our service men and women and their families the wish that this war was over and won. It is not, and the resolution before us today does nothing to resolve this conflict, reduce the loss of American life, stabilize Iraq or advance our security.And:
Friends, we may often disagree, but the facts are, regardless of how it began, and irrespective of the benefit of hindsight, we are at war and Iraq is the central battleground.Hear the sound of a hand slapping the head. The distressing thing isn't just that Dave apparently acknowledges that the invasion and subsequent occupation, which he supported, have gone disasterously wrong; or that he his solution to this screw up is to keep adding fuel to the fire; it's that he apparently has no clue what the conflict has turned into (note the translation, a little ways down, of an Arabic news report in which the various sectarian militias are lying low in hopes that we'll do their dirty work for them -- and willing to trick us into doing it). Has any of this penetrated the thinking of Dave Camp, or the realities that we're stuck in a civil war that could suck in the only people who've stayed out of it?
Islamic extremists are waging a Jihad against us, and they are struggling to make Iraq a base camp. Our focus must be on winning; and disturbingly I see no mention of winning, succeeding or victory in this resolution. That, in itself, is telling of just how the other side perceives this conflict: not in terms of defeating an enemy of America, but in terms of defeating a political foe.
Poor poor Dave Camp.
1. Looking back, do you think the U.S. made the right decision or the wrong decision in using military force against the Taliban in Afghanistan?
2. Looking back, do you think the U.S. made the right decision or the wrong decision
in using military force against Iraq?
3. Generally speaking, do you think our success in Iraq is linked to keeping America
safe from another terrorist attack?
-----Iraq is linked
-----Iraq is not linked
4. Should the U.S. keep military troops in Iraq until the country’s emerging democracy is secure and can defend itself, or should we bring our troops home as soon as possible regardless of any potential impact on security in the U.S. or Iraq?
-----Bring troops home
5. Here are four potential different strategies the U.S. could follow in dealing with the war in Iraq. Which ONE do you prefer? Withdraw all troops from Iraq immediately? Withdraw all troops by January 2008, or some other specific date? Withdraw troops only after Iraq is stabilized? OR, Send more troops to Iraq now?
-----Withdraw by date certain
-----Take as long as needed
-----Send more troops
6. Should the U.S. set a timetable for withdrawing troops from Iraq?
-----Should get out now
7. Some have suggested Congress should try to block the President’s plan to send additional troops into Iraq by withholding funding. Do you support Congress withholding funding for these troops?
-----Do not withold funds
8. Some have suggested Congress should try to cap the number of troops in Iraq. Do you support putting a limit on the number of troops that can be deployed in Iraq?
-----Do not cap troops
9. Some have suggested Congress should pass a non-binding resolution opposing the President’s new strategy in Iraq. Do you think Congress should pass such a resolution, or does that send the wrong message to our troops and our enemies?
10. As you know, the President has outlined a new, four-pronged plan to help us succeed in Iraq. The President’s plan includes sending in roughly 20,000 additional troops, increasing diplomatic efforts, increasing economic assistance and requiring the Iraqis to take more responsibility for their own security. Do you favor or oppose the President’s new strategy?
Dave wants to know what you think about the war in Iraq. And, he's asking your advice and doesn't care if you're a Democrat, Republican; or if you think the war is a mistake or if you think it's a worthwhile cause.
Eastman estimated that 5,000 to 10,000 people will open the e-mailed message containing the survey. With war-related House votes possible, plans were to tally survey responses Friday and about a week later, Eastman said. But people also can respond after that, either by e-mail or by letter, he said.Excellent, you say, excellent. It's good to see someone in Congress seeking out the opinions of those whom he claims to represent.
* The survey is unscientific. The questions went to people (Camp supporters and others) who requested Camp's electronic newsletter plus some other residents of the 14-county congressional district.Uh-huh. So, if you think Dave Camp is a partisan hack, there is good reason to think that you aren't signed up for Dave's electronic newsletter. In that case, Dave isn't so interested in what you think.
"Iraq has become the central battleground in the War on Terror," Camp's introductory letter said. It adds:
"Islamic extremists, some backed by Iran and others by al Qaeda, are attempting to turn Iraq into a safe haven from which they can plot and launch future attacks on our homeland. The consequences of failure in Iraq are grave.
"We also know that staying the course is not acceptable. I have said in the days since the president announced his new strategy for the War in Iraq that this is our last chance to succeed. Progress must be made quickly if the country is to stabilize.
"It is my belief that there is no greater issue facing our country than the War in Iraq. I also firmly believe, as I know you do, that our troops have served ably and honorably. To those that have served and are still serving, we owe an unrepayable debt. I will be forever grateful for their service to our country, and will do everything in my power to ensure they have the full support of their government from the first day they put on that uniform and every day thereafter."
Of course, the idea that Iran and al-Qaeda are stirring up trouble in Iraq is contrary to our latest NIE, but what the heck. We also know that Dave doesn't want Congress to tie the hands of President 30%-er on the war.So, really, the question raises itself ... Dave, rather than picking what must be a small, supportive sample of people for their opinions, why not either take a leadership role in the face of continued carnage, or at least take a gander at neutral, objective, scientific polls of what the American people want rather than relying on the people who sign up for your electronic newsletter.